Question:
How do you know how much to tip at a restauran?
wllmsshnd
2006-03-19 07:08:40 UTC
How do you know how much to tip at a restauran?
24 answers:
juelleggs
2006-03-19 07:10:32 UTC
You tip 15% of your bill.
redunicorn
2006-03-19 15:11:02 UTC
Let's start with the question of expectations on both sides. Unfortunately, restaurants don't usually post a notice saying "Average tip is 15% on the bill for food, excluding tax and alcoholic drinks, but including any dessert or special charge for sharing." So we're in a situation where we (as customers) don't know the expectations of the waiters. (I'll use the term "waiter" to mean either gender, and eschew the dreaded "waitperson.") There are four possibilities:



(1) If the waiter is expecting 15% on the total bill, and you leave 15% on the total bill, all is well.



(2) If the waiter is expecting 15% on the total bill and you leave 15% on the bill-less-tax, the waiter is disappointed. The conscientious waiter may worry what he/she did wrong. Or may think you're just a cheapskate. More on this later.



(3) If the waiter is expecting 15% on the bill-less-tax and you leave 15% on the bill-less-tax, all is well. However, see below.



(4) If the waiter is expecting 15% on the bill-less-tax and you leave 15% on the total bill, the waiter is pleased.



Since no clear expectations have been set, if there's going to be a possibility of miscommunication, in what direction would you want it to go? Personally I'd rather have the waiter pleased than disappointed, assuming the service was good, so I leave a tip based on the total bill. If I want the waiter to be disappointed--that is, if I want to deliver a message that service was crummy--then I'm going to leave a small tip or no tip. I'm not going to fart around with the small difference on the tax.



So, in the absence of instructions, I'd rather run the risk of slightly overtipping inadvertently rather than slightly undertipping.



A couple other things to bear in mind:



Most waiters don't have the time to figure out what the bill-less-tax is. It's often not even subtotaled on the check. Like your friend, most waiters are usually anticipating their earnings on the total bill.

If you've paid with a charge card, the restaurant pays a fee to the charge card company. Many restaurants (I was going to say "most", in my experience, but I haven't seen a formal survey) reduce the tip proportionately to reflect the costs to the credit card company. If you ask, they'll tell you it doesn't matter, but if you are friendly enough with a waiter to get the truth behind the polite fiction, often it DOES matter--the waiter is getting less than what you wrote on the charge slip.

But let's set all that aside. The bottom line is: The cost-less-tax thing is a bullshit argument so you can be a cheapskate. You're talking about an extra quarter or buck or whatever. It's a small difference for you. You're the patron at the restaurant, you can afford the price of the meal. The waiter or waitress works on a crummy salary and depends on tips to earn a living. So, big deal, you save a buck and the waiter feels hurt and undertipped and gets paid less. Sorry, bud, but that's about as cheap as it gets.



I will say that a relative-in-law of mine feels as you do. At first I thought it was an interesting concept, but then I saw that he was a cheapskate in everything else, too. I bet you still think 10% is a good tip and were shocked at my using 15% as "average." If so, get ready for this--the trend is to tip at still higher rates, with 18% or 20% becoming the norm.



If you really feel, as a matter of principle, that you shouldn't be tipping on the tax, then raise your tipping percentage. Instead of 15% on the bill-plus-tax, tip 16.3125% (Chicago has an 8.75% sales tax) on the bill-less-tax. If that's too much math (although you seem well equipped to deal with fine points), tip one-sixth of the bill-less-tax. Everyone will be happy.



The preceding applies strictly to the U.S. If you're dining outside the U.S., you need to look carefully at the menu. There's usually a statement that "service is included" or something similar, meaning that you needn't tip at all. The custom is usually to round up to the next whole amount as a tip, so if the bill were €23.45 (€ is the symbol for euros), you'd leave €24 or €25. That's a much more sensible system, if you ask me--to pay the waiters a reasonable salary and not have them depend on tips for their livelihood. A side benefit is that it's easier to divide a bill--everyone knows exactly what their share is, and there's no quibbling about what the tip share comes to.
mickeymouselover
2006-03-20 22:11:09 UTC
I usually tip at least 20 percent on the total bill. If, however, it is a very inexpensive meal and the 20 percent amount would be less than $5.00, I tip $5.00. I find that I return to the same restaurant(s) many times and always get good service because the waiters know that they will get a good tip. If I happen to get horrible service from a waiter, I always leave a small tip ($1-$2). That way the waiter knows that you didn't simply forget to leave a tip. In the case of a bad waiter, I usually try to ask the manager or another waiter if they "pool tips" because it is not fair for all the good waiters to get a percentage of a crappy tip just because of one bad waiter. When this has happened, I personally give a decent tip directly to the bad waiter and mention that he didn't deserve it but everyone else did.
jonfmadd
2006-03-19 15:19:26 UTC
If it is a buffet, the waiter/waitress is only refilling a drink or two...$1 per person in your group is sufficient.



If it is a sit down, order and be served restaurant then start at 15%(of the total bill-forget the less tax crap). If the service is good, go up on the tip. If the service is bad reduce the tip.



Forget the "expectations" junk and let the waiter/ess know how you appreciate them or were unsatisfied by them with the ammount of cash you reward their service.



I like to tip well but if you make me wait for and ask for everything you can kiss your tip goodbye. And I dare you to make a whisper of complaint if I dont tip to your "expectations" because that just lets me tell you exactly what I think. With good service I also like to thank the server and if appropriate pass compliments along to the chef as well.



If you will come back you need to set up a relationship with the server that will make future visits pleasant and clearly set up YOUR expectations.
anonymous
2006-03-19 15:11:55 UTC
At a restaurant you always give the person who's serving you 20%. To find probably twenty percent, make a fraction (20/100) then I think divide it buy the amount of money from your check and you should get the amount of money you need to tip. But it depends if the service is good or bad. The usual tipping amount is $15.00
CureFreak
2006-03-19 15:20:47 UTC
anything 10% or less is just plain rude. 15-17% is the norm for good service. If your server makes good eye contact, is friendly, and ensures that your visit is enjoyable I would tip 21-25%.



Some people think it is rude to tip at all (thier cultures teach them not to), but if you live in America and go out to eat in a restaurant, it is EXPECTED to tip your server.



Did you know that servers usually only get $2.65 an hour, and have to claim their tips as taxable income?



Some people can make very good money as servers (I do average), and gives them great pleasure to make people happy.



What really bugs me, is when I give great service to a table, and they tell I was the best server they had and only leave 10% or less.



Sometimes I want to go up to them as they are leaving and say: "Here, you need this more than I do"
Mummy of 2
2006-03-19 15:16:55 UTC
It's normally 10% of the bill. If they still work the same in france (than 9 yrs ago) then a tips are actually waiters wages, so maybe tip a little more.

If your not happy with the service, don't tip or tip less and if you are happy tip a bit more.
cul8r_32
2006-03-19 15:16:15 UTC
sometimes, a credit union ( or bank) will have a pocket calendar that has tip schedules on the back of them. Mine says that 15% is the norm, unless the service is really bad, in which case you leave it to your discretion. If you really like the restaurant, and decide to visit often, then you don't want to come off as a cheapskate, but mention to a staff member ( with tact) that the service left something to be desired.
Patzy
2006-03-19 15:16:01 UTC
The standard tip these days is 15%. But it does depend on your service. If the waitress/waiter is good, I will throw in a little extra. If they are not so good, I will take a little out. They only make about $3.00 an hour, that is technically the reason why you should ALWAYS leave something.
Amandy
2006-03-19 15:22:34 UTC
I've worked in a resteraunt and have many friends that are servers, and they complain a lot about how people don't tip well. Servers depend on those tips considering they don't get much of a paycheck. My theory is, if you have good service, tip 2.00 for every 10.00 increment your bill comes to.



10.00, I tip $2

20.00, I tip $4

25.00, I tip $5, etc....its just an easy, generous way to tip without taking out the calculator =)
sport-n-spice
2006-03-19 15:09:41 UTC
Typically, it's 18-20%
anonymous
2006-03-19 15:25:04 UTC
You tip usually around 20% of the total amount.
WindowLicker
2006-03-19 15:10:18 UTC
15-18 percent of the bill if the service was up to par and the food didn't stink. (In NY, that can be computed easily by doubling the amount of tax)
george_the_cat
2006-03-19 15:15:28 UTC
(10% or the pre-tax bill)*2.



Although, the way waitors and waitresses "serve" their customers these days in restaurants I don't know why we tip at all. Most places they barely say "Hi" and deliver garbage to your table without even looking.
icucanbefree
2006-03-19 15:16:10 UTC
15 %
anonymous
2006-03-19 15:13:19 UTC
15%
cl94
2006-03-19 15:09:56 UTC
Depends on service. If it is good service, give a 15% tip. If service is horrible, give no tip.
moveplease
2006-03-23 16:19:06 UTC
15% to 20% if you have had exceptional service and the food is excellent.
robnlaura1013
2006-03-19 15:14:22 UTC
when you go to an expensive restaurant, they will usually add 18% gratuity onto the bill, that's the standard. but it depends on service and quality of food.
eutopiastar
2006-03-19 15:12:32 UTC
saw beauty and the geek last nite....

basically they were saying for a guy in front of his date u gotta pay 20% of the bill...

so thats how much u gotta tip..

hope it helps..
sweetgirlsheila2005
2006-03-19 15:09:55 UTC
I aways tip 10% of my bill, that is what my parents taught me!
Twinklestar
2006-03-19 15:11:31 UTC
I give at least 20%.
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2006-03-19 21:10:53 UTC
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brainteaser
2006-03-19 15:15:37 UTC
15% is ok


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